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Old 09-16-2005, 03:56 PM
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Plan changed.

As you may know that I planned to have a snake. Though, mom doesn't really like it (Ophidiophobia, I think) and the petstores around here are out of stock. So I think we'll have some lizards. Do you have any suggestion for a beginners? What to keep? Informative pages...
Also, this is pretty much chilly here. So heater can be a big deal to concern right? Do you have any idea for this?
Thanks for your help.
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Old 09-16-2005, 09:17 PM
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As you may know that I planned to have a snake. Though, mom doesn't really like it (Ophidiophobia, I think) and the petstores around here are out of stock. So I think we'll have some lizards. Do you have any suggestion for a beginners? What to keep? Informative pages...
Also, this is pretty much chilly here. So heater can be a big deal to concern right? Do you have any idea for this?
Thanks for your help.
bearded dragons make good beginers for some people, they do have needs and need certen things, but most of it is money, they get relitivly big, and are pretty expensive. but for a "cheap" beginer, I would recomend a lepered gecko, they are relivily imposible to kill, need only heat, rocks, hiding spots, food and watter. and can be kept in a 10 gallen tank. but i find bearded dragons have a bit more persanality, but they require lots of space. at least a 70 gallen tank, they eat greens and crickets and many other insects. if you decide on what you want, I can help you with any questions you may want to know about them.
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Old 09-16-2005, 10:50 PM
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Thanks for replying.
I think I'll get a leopard gecko. They're quite inexpensive... and so does their living space requirements. I may afford a 10 gallon tank now.
So... do you think petsmart is a 'smart' place to visit? Or we can buy something from there and get to an individual petstore?
And what kind of heater I need?
Do they need a system of humidifying? Or just some water in a plate?
What kind of heater do I need? (It's gonna get pretty chilly here)
How about food? Oh, one question, is it okay to catch the insects around the area to feed them? Or can we culture feeder crikets? Hmmm... well I think... oh what combination (genders, quantity) is the best for a 10 gallon tank?

Ok Thanks again for your support
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Old 09-16-2005, 11:41 PM
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Thanks for replying.
I think I'll get a leopard gecko. They're quite inexpensive... and so does their living space requirements. I may afford a 10 gallon tank now.
So... do you think petsmart is a 'smart' place to visit? Or we can buy something from there and get to an individual petstore?
And what kind of heater I need?
Do they need a system of humidifying? Or just some water in a plate?
What kind of heater do I need? (It's gonna get pretty chilly here)
How about food? Oh, one question, is it okay to catch the insects around the area to feed them? Or can we culture feeder crikets? Hmmm... well I think... oh what combination (genders, quantity) is the best for a 10 gallon tank?

Ok Thanks again for your support
eh, no they don't need a high humity envirment like some lizards, some geckos do, but leo's (leppered geckos) are more of a desert kind of lizard, they will drink still water, there are lizards that will NOT drink still water, you have to watch out for such things, like moutan hornded dragons, which will not drink still water. you can get a heat bulb probobly around 100 watter, or a 75 watt would be plenty, 100 watt if you put him in a 20 gallen adjusting the hight of the light above the cage will very the temp, so you can jsut pick a high watt, and raise the light fixture, , UVB's are not importent since they are nocternal, and don;t relaly sunbath much, but is recomended to give dragons a vitimen D3 supliment, by simply powedering the crickets with the vitimen powder,and yes, they eat crickets and meal worms, meal worms are avoided by some people, hard shells, not enough calcium. your best bet is to go with crickets, put the crickets in a large critter cage, and slice a pattato in half and put it in the cage as hydration and food for the crickets. the powder supliment is bout 10 bucks, somwhere around there, and will last you a LONG time. you will also need to make sure he has hiding spots, and his water dish, I'm not to sure on misting him, some lizards get misted to simulate the morning due that they get in the wild, which for some lizards is a big part of there hydration. the temputrue in the cage should be around 82-88 F

I'm not 100% sure on all this infermation, I don't acually own a leo my self, but they are really simple lizards, and are fun and usialy can be generaly handling friendly as long as they are raised with all these needs and conforts, remeber a stressed out lizard can get deseases. liver malfucitons and all of that, jsut like humans, but in reptiles it impacts them allot more. . any more questions you would need answered, you can jsut read this care sheet. and also make sure you read it incase I missed anything or gave you the wrong infermation. just trying to be helpful. if I missed anything you wanted to know, jsut ask.

http://www.redtailboa.net/modules.ph...warticle&id=14

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Old 09-17-2005, 12:34 AM
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I agree,a leo is best,good luck
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Old 09-17-2005, 08:24 AM
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Well... wait a minute, it's leppered geckos? I though you guys talking about leopard geckos.... So are they different? If yes, is keeping the latter as same as keeping a leppered gecko?
One more question: Will the heating bulb apply for both cage and tank enclosurement (I think the voltage for the latter should bre lower right?)
Hmm.... I think that's all I need to ask (for now )
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Old 09-17-2005, 09:30 AM
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Well... wait a minute, it's leppered geckos? I though you guys talking about leopard geckos.... So are they different? If yes, is keeping the latter as same as keeping a leppered gecko?
One more question: Will the heating bulb apply for both cage and tank enclosurement (I think the voltage for the latter should bre lower right?)
Hmm.... I think that's all I need to ask (for now )
Thanks again....
no, I just can't spell the heat emited by the bulb isn't rated by what volated its rated at, its the wattage that it'll take at a given house voltage, they do have litle thermistats that you can plug imbewteen the wall and the light and control the heat emited. I think a 75 watt for a 10 gallen would work nicly for the temps they ask for, if you get a 20 gallen, which would probobly look nicer, you would need maybe a little stronger of a bulb.

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Old 09-17-2005, 09:46 AM
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dont feed him cought from outside crickets. because they could have been sprayed with poison and can kill your gecko.
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Old 09-17-2005, 09:58 AM
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yea, sorry I must of missed that question, yea you should never catch anything frm the wild and feed it to them, and also when you put logs and such in there cage, you should bake it in the oven at about 400 degrees. like logs, rocks and so on. all bacteria dies off at around that temp. and most perisites, incuding worms, or anything that he might try to eat out of the log. which you do not want because earth worms are loaded with bactera. good luck with your gecko
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Old 09-17-2005, 10:58 AM
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Never mind Cricket tm... you helped me alot....
How long should we boil the accessories before adding them to the enclosurement?
Oh now this's me who missed a question, what subtrate should I use? My sister has some spare gravel for aquarium use... will it work? And I wonder how to maintain everything.
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Old 09-17-2005, 12:25 PM
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Never mind Cricket tm... you helped me alot....
How long should we boil the accessories before adding them to the enclosurement?
Oh now this's me who missed a question, what subtrate should I use? My sister has some spare gravel for aquarium use... will it work? And I wonder how to maintain everything.
leos are more rugged, but I don't think you cna use gravel from an aquarium. thats the only thing I don't know about htem, I don't know, read the caresheet I gave you. and I think abour 15- 20 mins is good. make sure that the rocks have gaps and such so he can hide, if you use a 20 gallen, you can use big rocks, which will make it easier for find rocks with gaps and such. they must have these hides, they get really stressed with out them. you'll pick up on how to care for eveyrthing and pick up tricks from hanging around here, you'll kinda just need to leap in there, make sure he gets all his needs, and as problems come along you just take care of them. you most likly won't have any problems with a leo, they're adaptible, and rugged. unlike beardies and other lizards whihch are more sensitive to there envirments.

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Old 09-17-2005, 08:36 PM
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Ok guys... thanks alot for your help. I'll head the petstore tomorrow hopefully.
Oh also... now I think about something. It's well heated in the daytime alright as the bulb is on. But when noght comes, I turn off the bulb. Will it be too chilly for them?
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Old 09-22-2005, 11:32 PM
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PLease don't buy from a pet store. Get one from a known breeder, you will save a lot in vet bills. also, you can use red bulbs and UTHs with geckos at night. i do feel they are a great begginner pet cause they don't need expensive UV or large tanks.
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Old 09-23-2005, 12:18 AM
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DO NOT USE GRAVEL FOR A SUBSTRATE,no loose substrates are safe for leos. The best and safest substrates for leos are paper towels,newspaper,reptile carpet,tiles or slate rocks. Slate rocks are the most natural if your looking for natural. I wouldnt go as far as dont buy off pet stores but be careful. I bought all 4 of my leos and some other herps from petco and they are all healthy and happy but you have to be careful and use common sense. The secret to buying from pet stores is to check the animal over good and make sure it looks good and healthy. If it doesent look good then dont buy it. The best place to buy leos along with most herps would be a reptile show if you have one near you because they will have the cheapest prices and best breeders. The closest one to me is like 4 hours away so its kinda out of the question for me. Good luck and do lots of research .
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